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Captain John CONN, Dreadnought 98; the WILLCOCKS connection
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the widows men were ghosts, they always had an AB pay + the rations they didn't eat and got always a tick.

What I don't know is if their number was entered according the theorical complement of the ship or the actual complement. Would be worth looking some muster books to know.

For real people in the colums you'll find:
D for discharged to another ship, hoospital etc
DD for discharged dead like your R White
R for run
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Post Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martin,

I may possibly have come across some earlier service in the Navy for John Conn jr. A John Conn appears in two musters for the Albion that I was looking at (ADM 36/8294 & ADM 36/8289). In the first he is listed as Captain's Servant with an entry date of 1 Oct 1776 (but this may be the date of the previous book). His name is immediately after the captain's, John Carter Allen, and appears as "Jno Conn (2)", meaning that he is the second John Conn in the book, but I am afraid I did not have time to search for the first. In the second muster he also appears as "Jno Conn (2)" with an entry date of 1 Oct 1777 (date of previous book?), but also with a discharge date of 19 Dec 1777 (reason: Request). If this is the right man (or boy, rather), this date just gives him time to spend Christmas at home before joining the Weazle in February 1778!

There are some more Stoke Damerel links in this muster. A few names down from the Captain and John Conn is George Jope, the chaplain. If I have the right man, this is Charles Mansfield's next door neighbour in Stoke Damerel, future brother in law, future chaplain of the Dockyard at Plymouth, and the future vicar of Stoke Damerel. His father, Peter Jope, was a colleague of Mansfield's father in the dockyard at Plymouth. George Jope has as his servant in the Albion, Thomas Jope, who I believe to be his younger brother.

Mansfield's brother Philip also briefly served in the Albion from 9 Sep 1777 to 21 Oct 1777, his quick departure presumably being a result of him being promoted Lieutenant in October.

Charles Mansfield later served in the Albion as Lieutenant under Captain Bowyer from December 1778 to March 1779.

If using (or requesting copies of) ADM 36/8294 please note that the catalogue description of "ALBION 1775 Oct - 1781 Jun" is a bit misleading, as it is in fact a number of muster books bound together in the wrong order and with long periods missing (some of which are catalogued seperately).

Good luck,
Tony
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