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Redfish
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 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:22 am Post subject: Doggy |
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According to the Royal Navy website (www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server?show=nav.3808&outputFormat=print) "Doggy" is defined as:
Naval name for the Midshipman detailed to attend the Captain or Commander.
Does anyone know if this expression was already in use in the late 18th/early 19th century?
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PMarione
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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"Snotty" for a Midshipman is used in Marryat.
For "doggy", I don't know. Probably more recent.
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PMarione
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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At http://www.hmsrichmond.org/dict_d.htm they give "doggy" in their 1775 Naval Terms and Slang
quoting from "a collection of Naval slang, abbreviations, legends and historical tit-bits which was originally compiled by Commander A. Covey-Crump, RN, a former Naval Assistant to the Chief of Naval Information". |
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Redfish
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that! Yet for research-purposes I dare not trust the fact that all terms mentioned in your source originate from Covey Crump's work. The reason for this is in the parts of the quote from their site that are indicated with bold lettertype. On their homepage I cannot find a direct link to terms and slang from later date. This might either mean that they restricted themselves to the old ones, or that it is actually a bigger collection of these terms and that some of those originate from this period. 
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| Quote: | 1775 Naval Terms and Slang
Many terms now in use in the English language around the world owe their beginnings to slang originated by Sailors and Marines of the Royal Navy.
Many words and terms you will need to know to function within Richmond's Ship's Company can be found here. Most are slang, while others are terms you will need to know to understand the CBT lessons.
A valuable resource in tracing these origins has been Covey Crump - a collection of Naval slang, abbreviations, legends and historical tit-bits which was originally compiled by Commander A. Covey-Crump, RN, a former Naval Assistant to the Chief of Naval Information.
HMS Richmond is indebted to the Ministry of Defence (NAVY), London, for much of the abridged content of this 1775 period centered dictionary
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PMarione
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with you. No way to know. |
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