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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Why am I showing as having written all this spam? Reply with quote

Hello
I've just joined the forum and logged in for the first time and I see to my horror that I show up as having written various spam messages over the last few weeks. I HAVE NOT.
Huge apologies if I have initiated something unwittingly.
Sincerely
from a fellow fan of the period.
(researching careers of Alexander Home and his son George Home)
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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry about that.

Spammers are a real pain in the arse and very imaginative. A great loss to mankind that they don't use all that energy doing something useful.

I have deleted the spams. I have to do it every day.
Feel free to post now.

Alexander and George Home are certainly men worth research (more law than RN I think).


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Post Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phew, thanks. I agree about these spammers. I get a lot from my site. I've had to remove all links and even remove a feedback form as they managed to send very nasty content through them. Such a pain.

Looking forward to going through all the posts and many congratulations for the CD (and the blood, sweat and tears that it demanded) which I will be ordering.
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Charlie,

Are your Homes by any chance related in any way to Sir Home Popham?

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Charles
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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Charles

I have not found any link with Home Riggs Popham.
I have always assumed that Home is a Christian name.
Much as I would like to have that Damned cunning fellow somewhere in my family tree!
I've got my hands full at the moment with several characters Francis and his son,
as mentioned before and a character at Hougoumont (Waterloo) also called Francis.
They have all got their own stories.
I've been reading the naval sections of George Home's memoirs which have been really interesting.
He wrote in quite an amusing style and his exploits read like a Alexander Kent Bolitho story.
If you are interested in reading these naval chapters (skipping the lengthy family feuding bits)
visit the book's download page on Google's book search here http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mlgJAAAAIAAJ&dq=Memoirs+of+an+Aristocrat&pg=PA1&ots=yx7NvHe9p8&sig=Ivl6xzCS7zOx9_VdU74yzlKm3BM&prev=http://www.google.co.uk/search%3Fnum%3D50%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DGGLD%252CGGLD%253A2005-14%252CGGLD%253Aen%26q%3DMemoirs%2Bof%2Ban%2BAristocrat%26btnG%3DSearch%26meta%3D&sa=X&oi=print&ct=result&cd=1

George ends up serving on the Billy Ruffian and actually talks to Napoleon (briefly admittedly).
Throughout his book, he inserts 'dashes' instead of mentioning people's names or vessels as was the custom then.
(He was still sued successfully for £1000 by another branch of the family for libel).
I'm filling in all the dashes which is proving fun.

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Post Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Charlie,
Fascinating stuff - I will have a read when I have more time.
I only mentioned Homes Popham because sometimes the mother's family name
is used as a first name, though admittedly more often a middle name.
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Home Riggs Popham Reply with quote

His father's name was Joseph Popham.
Riggs was the name of his mother.

Home possibly was the name of some other grandfather.
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: George Home Reply with quote

Charlie,

Thanks for pointing us at George Home's Memoirs.

I didn't know the book.

A quick check shows him having a great sense of humour.
A pity that some pages are missing at the beginning.
I suppose that the stupid midwive burned the cottage to the ground.

Would make a great scene in a movie.


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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Hougoumont Reply with quote

Charlie,

Hougoumont is only about 10 miles from my home.
Curiously (or not) I have never been there.
I only go to Waterloo once in while when an English friend is visiting, but we only go to climb that b... Lion's Mound, see the movie and visit the wax museum.

Now I know what to do next time.

I always wondered why the French didn't drag some canons there and didn't blow up the door or the walls.
That certainly would have changed the issue of the battle: taking Wellington's right before Blucher showed up.

Jérome (here is the naval content) was not the brightest bulb in the family!
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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patrick

I spent a couple of years in Brussels in the early 80's and, like you, I never really bothered to visit Waterloo.
It was something the tourists did! My sister still lives there and she has only been a few times (in about 25 years!).
Hate that mound but could spend many many days just walking about,
or sitting in, the farm of Hougoumont.

To get back on board.....
How would I find out who the Admiral was in Rio de Janeiro in early 1814, what frigate flew his flag and who commanded her?
I've tried lengthy perusing lists such as the ones produced on Michael Phillips's History pages http://www.cronab.demon.co.uk/INTRO.HTM which are fascinating.

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Post Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:56 pm    Post subject: Admiral in Rio de Janeiro in 1814 Reply with quote

The easiest way is to check a Steel's Navy List.
It gives a list of flag-officers in commission and a list of the ships and their station.

I don't have the NL for 1814 but in 1819, Commodore Thomas Masterman Hardy
(the "kiss me", Hardy) was in charge on board the Superb 78.

The library at RNM in Portsmouth has an extensive set. Maybe some helpful librarian can check for you.

From some notes I have, Rear-Admiral then Vice-Admiral Manley Dixon was C-in-C South America from 1812 till 1815.

And from the website you quoted:
Quote:
MONTAGU, 74. 1779 Chatham. BU 1818
1811 out of commission at Chatham.
1812 Capt. Manley DIXON, 6/11. with the flag of his father Rear Ad. Manley DIXON
on the Baltic and South American stations
until July 1813 when he exchanged with Capt. Peter HEYWOOD of NEREUS,42, in July 1813.
1814 off the Scheldt.
1815 ditto, Spithead for America.
1816 Mediterranean.
1817 Portsmouth.


I found a list of C-in-C but post 1830 at http://www.pdavis.nl/ShowCommanders.php#A40

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