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El Tempranillo



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Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:38 am    Post subject: Types of ships Reply with quote

Can anybody please give me an exact definition for the term slop-ship.
I am presuming that it is some form of supply ship.
Is this correct?
When replying please quote your source if possible.
Many thanks.
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a lenghty article on "slops" in Falconer's Dictionary p 485.
(there is a copy on this website http://www.ageofnelson.org/Document11.html)

In short "slops" were ready-made clothes and other furnitures for the crew sold by the purser.

A slop-ship was a transport for "slop". Most transports were hired ships.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Types of Ships Reply with quote

Many thanks for your reply it was a great help, as I am currently compiling glossaries for each of the Aubrey/Maturin novels by Patrick O'Brian.
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In English or in Spanis?

Falconer is certainly a great source for your research.
Another is Admiral Smyth's Sailor's Word-book but I am not sure if you can find a copy on the web.

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Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Types of ships Reply with quote

In answer to your question - in English.
Thanks for the tip about Admiral Smyth's Sailor's Word-Book.
I haven't been able to find a published copy on the web, just printed versions on Amazon but they are a bit expensive. Though I did find a few nautical dictionaries/glossaries that will come in handy.
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Post Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Admiral Smyth's "Sailor's Word Book" see:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=b9YwAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA11&dq=sailors+word+book#PPP7,M1
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 6:52 am    Post subject: Types of ships Reply with quote

Dear Ionia
Many, many thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Does the Ionia give me a clue as to your location, I would be interested to know.
I am currently living in the province of Cádiz, Andalucia, Spain.
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Resource Reply with quote

El,

In the highly unlikely event you are not already familiar with it, here is a resource / portal that may e relevant to your endeavour:

http://www.io.com/gibbonsb/pob/
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ionia,
Thanks for this very useful link, I'll add Smyth on the website.

El,

Are you doing this for the fun or as an academic work?

Cadiz is a place full of naval history and with a better weather (wish I was there).

For glossaries and dictionaries, the absolute reference is
http://www.termisti.refer.org/nauterm/dicten.htm
They have also a complete bibliography but its difficult to find:
go to http://www.termisti.refer.org/
in the page list go to "la bibliographie des dictionnaires de marine", OK
in the page click "English" if your French is not up to

Amusingly ISTI is just across the street from my home but to high-ranking people to talk to "vulgum pecus" like me.

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Post Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As promised I added Admiral Smyth's "Sailor's Word Book" on the website:
http://www.ageofnelson.org/Document16.html

I had to rescan some pages as Google made a poor job as often.

I also added a small book that some may find interesting: The Young Sea-Officer's Assistant by John Adams (1773). Even if it was for the HEIC young gentlemen, it gives a good idea of what the would be lieutenants had to know to pass their examination. We are far from HN "easy" exam.
http://www.ageofnelson.org/Document15.html
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Post Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:00 am    Post subject: types of ships Reply with quote

To PMarione

Please accept my profuse apologies for not replying sooner to your question of April 07.

I am preparing the glossaries of the Aubrey/Maturin books initially for my own benefit, but once I have completed the glossary for each book, and transferred into .pdf format, I hope to make it available for all. Possibly via my own website or posting on sites such as yours. Would you be interested?

Sincerely

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Post Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good idea.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:00 pm    Post subject: Types of Ships Reply with quote

To PMarione

Did you get my email re: sending you a draft copy of my proposed glossary

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I didn't.
My email address is on the website.
I am impatient to read it.
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Post Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Types of Ships Reply with quote

To PMarione

I have prepared a *.pdf file of the draft copy of my glossary which we have discussed.

The email to which I referred posed the question "How do I attach a *.pdf file to a message".

Look forward to your reply.

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